As the title suggests, reposted from a personal chat, hoping to spark widespread discussion among everyone, and also to help answer their questions.
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daydayup: Hello, I can’t reply anymore
daydayup: I haven’t studied history much, so I’m not very clear about this matter
daydayup: I’ve been studying science and engineering, and I don’t know much about class analysis
luanma: It’s okay, Lenin said that if you don’t understand something, try to make yourself understand a little more. You can follow our forum’s recommended readings and learn more theories, and increase your knowledge of classes
luanma: Also, class analysis has nothing to do with which subject you study, because under capitalism, all sciences and education are the thoughts of the bourgeoisie. So-called liberal arts teach bourgeois philosophy, bourgeois literature, bourgeois art; so-called science and engineering teach bourgeois science and bourgeois philosophy. There’s actually no difference; in the end, it’s still about the super-class ideology
daydayup: I’m a bit confused. I will learn, your articles are very well written, I learn from your keen insights
luanma: Basically, it depends on your level of Marxism. It has nothing to do with what you’ve learned in capitalist society
luanma: The more you learn, the more false ideas you are fed, and the more stubborn your bourgeois worldview becomes. Later, when you learn Marxism, it becomes harder for your thoughts to change
luanma: It’s like a white sheet of paper; the darker it is stained, the harder it is to change it to another color. Conversely, if you don’t stain it with any color, it’s easier to dye it into another color
daydayup: Why do you say that? 
Are school teachings all wrong, as you say?
luanma: Not exactly, but it has nothing to do with learning Marxism
luanma: If the路线 (line) is wrong, the more knowledge you have, the more reactionary you are
luanma: Many things, even if they contain some correct parts, also have various bourgeois prejudices, and the more you learn, the more distorted your thinking becomes
daydayup: If everything is wrong, then everyone should stand up and oppose, right?
luanma: Not everything is wrong
luanma: For example,
luanma: When you take Chinese class, the Chinese teacher teaches you how to recognize characters, speak, and write essays
luanma: There are indeed correct skills in listening, speaking, reading, and writing
luanma: But, the Chinese teacher doesn’t just teach you these; they also have you read texts, write themed essays, and do reading comprehension
daydayup: 
daydayup: Are you saying there’s a problem with the texts?
luanma: Pretty much
luanma: For example, now the texts include many absurd things
luanma: Like the story “Me and the Ditan” written by Shi Tiesheng
luanma: It tells about a macho man who keeps parasitizing women, first his mother, then his sister, and the more he parasitizes, the worse he gets, always scolding his mother
luanma: He relies on his mother for everything, yet despises and insults her
luanma: Everything he does, he expects his mother to help, but he also complains and insults her
daydayup: Your way of saying makes me think of the movie “The Truman Show”
luanma: In the end, he just writes a hypocritical article saying his behavior is wrong, but he doesn’t admit he’s shameless; he’s just there mourning and lamenting
daydayup: I can’t remember what this text was about; I think I learned it when I was a kid
luanma: Why not post a thread for open discussion?
daydayup: Huh?
daydayup: What kind of topic is this?
luanma: It can be about learning Marxism
daydayup: I don’t quite understand. I’ll go check out “Me and the Ditan”
luanma: I don’t know what you mean by “The Truman Show”?
daydayup: You said that what we learn is problematic
daydayup: Isn’t “The Truman Show” a performance to make Truman believe?
luanma: We should learn the correct parts from it, and carry forward the good
luanma: Then criticize the wrong, and learn from mistakes
luanma: Marxists won’t be brutal like religious fanatics saying old culture is heresy and should be burned all, that’s not Marxism
luanma: “The Truman Show” is about creating suspicion and paranoia, making people feel like they can’t trust anything in the world, everything is fake
luanma: For example, in Chinese class, we learn listening, speaking, reading, and writing; in math, addition, subtraction, multiplication, and division; in English, foreign language communication; in history, history and humanities, etc. Don’t all people need to master these? Marxists just say, these should be taught without bourgeois prejudices, without adding personal bias, and not brainwashing people with fake stuff
daydayup: Then teachers really do
daydayup: Many teachers do mix their subjective emotions
daydayup: My internet is bad, it’s quite slow. I’m going to do laundry, I didn’t mean not to reply to you
daydayup: I can’t see what you sent
luanma: That’s okay, we’ll talk later
daydayup: Okay, thank you for telling me all this
Can you summarize the chat content? Copying and pasting directly affects readability, and there is a lot of irrelevant content.
I recommend you take a look at Hu Yinqiang’s “The Eve.” It should be available for purchase on Kongfz.com or you can download it from Anna’s archives. This book tells the story of proletarian teacher Fang Zhuangtao’s struggle against the bourgeois educational route represented by the principal at Jinjiang Middle School.
For example, regarding what kind of students to cultivate? The principal values grades, “He is the champion of the school essay contest and a gold medalist in math Olympiad competitions.” The teacher counters, “He is good at essays but has never written a blackboard newspaper for the class, and although he is good at math, he has never tutored classmates who ask him for help.” This kind of education can only cultivate students into individualists who indulge in pleasure and pursue fame and fortune; he only cares about his own interests and doesn’t care about his classmates around him. How can he possibly embrace revolution?
Isn’t the education of the bourgeois academy the same? Learning is for the college entrance exam, the exam is to get into a good university, and getting into a good university is to find a good job. The whole process is serving oneself. This leads to indifferent relationships among classmates, the formation of a grade contempt chain, frequent campus bullying, and few people helping victims. Although everyone is in the same classroom, they are indifferent to each other.
Another example is in learning knowledge. In the movie “Breakup,” it says, “We are from the mountains, where there are few horses, mostly pigs and cattle. Therefore, I suggest we talk less about horses and more about pigs and cattle.” Abstractly teaching dogma disconnected from reality is precisely a major feature of bourgeois education. For example, the very popular Eight Provinces Joint Exam, or the political exam in my college entrance year, which said, “The Beijing Olympics’ opening was free from political factors; it was purely an Olympic event,” and Chinese essay writing that can only talk about empty and useless eight-legged essays.
My Marxism is not very good; I speak a bit chaotically, lacking theoretical analysis. Sorry, I will work hard to improve. I highly recommend you read Hu Yinqiang’s “The Eve,” a proletarian revolutionary literary work from 1976 that exposes the roots of the bourgeois reactionary educational route in 2025 and is written very well.
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El tipo de contenido mezclado con intereses personales es en realidad el más evidente en las humanidades, por ejemplo en lengua y literatura, donde se incluyen muchas obras en chino clásico, como las de Han Yu, Confucio, promoviendo el respeto y la obediencia a los ancianos, lo cual claramente tiene problemas. En inglés, se centra principalmente en el humanitarismo de clase superestructural, o en el ambientalismo, etc. Como estudiante de secundaria, recuerdo claramente que en los textos de inglés se hablaba de protección ambiental y de salvar los glaciares. En historia y geografía, esto es aún más evidente; basta con leer los libros de historia y política del Partido en China para entenderlo. Pero no es que en ciencias no haya problemas; muchas conclusiones científicas en ciencias exactas son correctas, pero los métodos de enseñanza no lo son, por ejemplo, hacer que los estudiantes repitan problemas sin pensar activamente en las causas subyacentes, lo cual es un problema del sistema educativo burgués. Por supuesto, también hay conclusiones científicas incorrectas, principalmente en biología (porque en física, química y matemáticas, lo que se aprende es en su mayoría de los siglos XVII a XIX, cuando la burguesía era relativamente progresista y las conclusiones eran correctas). Por ejemplo, la negación de la herencia adquirida en la biología moderna, en realidad, la epigenética es en cierto sentido una herencia adquirida, ya que la epigenética trata sobre cómo las proteínas y el RNA en los cromosomas afectan la herencia genética y la expresión de la forma, y además la epigenética está influenciada por el ambiente y puede ser inducida por ambientes específicos (como un ejemplo en nuestra clase de biología, donde un ratón que bebe alcohol tiene un gen methylado en una región, aunque la secuencia genética no cambió). Esto claramente contradice las afirmaciones en la biología moderna burguesa, como que “solo los genes determinan la herencia”, “las proteínas no son material genético” y “los factores ambientales no pueden afectar la expresión génica, solo pueden seleccionar entre genes”.
Ah, thank you. I also feel a bit dizzy after watching.
I think the issue of teaching should mainly be considered as the most convenient for teachers to teach, but not necessarily convenient for students to learn.
In fact, it’s not just about making teaching more convenient for teachers (having unlimited rights over students is naturally a good thing for teachers, which cannot be denied), but more importantly, about instilling in students the idea of obeying the bourgeois social system. Many things in school are actually the same as in society: there are achievements in society and grades in school; there are bosses in society and teachers in school; there are jobs in society and homework in school; there are fines and disciplinary actions in society and punishments in school. By cultivating the habit of obeying the capitalist system in school first, it becomes much easier for the bourgeoisie to turn students into servants once they enter society.
Bourgeois academic institutions not only embed bourgeois ideas in the teaching of natural sciences and social sciences but also implement a set of social class oppression in their educational methods and the entire system of bourgeois schools. First, bourgeois schools will infinitely strengthen teachers’ power; teachers have unlimited disciplinary rights over students. It is very common for bourgeois schools to physically punish and insult students. Students are often brutally beaten over minor issues. Recently, Zhongxiu even believed that teachers’ power over students was insufficient and slandered that students are disobedient unless beaten, advocating for increased teacher authority. Teachers are akin to capitalists in bourgeois enterprises, able to arbitrarily scold and beat workers, with wages owed and labor laws merely paper tigers. Meanwhile, the system of bourgeois schools is gradually becoming fascist, similar to the system at Hengshui High School, where students have no freedom—sleeping positions and bathroom times are dictated. Some students at bourgeois schools have no time to shower. Hengshui High School classrooms often smell bad. Any violation of these unreasonable rules results in students being sent home for reflection and writing self-criticism. Currently, it is common to see students sent home or insulted by teachers for improper sleeping postures, going to the bathroom at night, or wearing colored shoes. This is essentially cultivating students to obey the labor discipline of bourgeois enterprises and to submit to the fascist rule of Zhongxiu. Additionally, the obsession with grades, the promotion of hierarchy—students with poor grades are beaten, insulted, or even beaten to death, considered inferior—while students with high grades are celebrated as “geniuses” and hold higher status because they are more aligned with the poison taught by bourgeois schools. These students are often made into bourgeois lackeys, serving as class cadres, assisting teachers in controlling and oppressing students, acting like the aristocratic workers in enterprises. Low-scoring students are demeaned as worthless because they cannot learn the poison of bourgeois teachings, often coming from working-class backgrounds, some participating in labor practices, unable to grasp the rigid learning methods imposed by bourgeois schools. Bourgeois teachers insist that only learning the poison of bourgeois ideas is high-level; those who cannot learn it are relegated to the lower class, equally insulted and vilified as workers, deserving of social discrimination and insult by the bourgeoisie. The bourgeois school system aims to bring everything of capitalist society into the school and force students to accept it. The bourgeois education system is inevitably about instilling bourgeois ideas into students.
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It just feels like the so-called obedience test often mentioned online, right?