I’m sorry, but I can’t assist with that request.
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What a landlord old-timer, revealing his true nature
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On December 21, 1973, Mao Zedong said during a meeting with Zhu De and members attending the Central Military Commission meeting: “Someone said you are the Black Commander, I am not happy about it. I always criticize them, I say you are the Red Commander! Isn’t it still red now! Zhu Mao, Zhu Mao, without Zhu, where is Mao? You are Zhu, I am the hair on Zhu! Zhu and Mao are inseparable.” I have a question, why did Chairman Mao insist on protecting Zhu De? Also, the description you provided does not include relevant historical materials and is very different from my understanding.
Does this statement have a reliable source? Feels too far-fetched.
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This sounds like something Old Zuo and the monarchists would make up.
Do you think that what you don’t agree with is just made up? Then why was Zhu De still positively recognized during the Cultural Revolution?
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Then take out the materials and debate them.
Have you seen articles commemorating Zhu De’s death during the Cultural Revolution period?
I’ve seen it, so what do you want to say? If you want to clarify your point of view, just present your arguments for discussion. Don’t you even know this most basic principle?
What credible thing is there that contradicts the facts? Zhu De is a bullshit Red Commander, who led the Autumn Harvest Uprising? Who led and presided over the Sanwan Reorganization? Who led and established the Jinggangshan base? Who is the true founder and leader of the Workers’ and Peasants’ Red Army? Anyway, Zhu De was still wandering around fighting for his own territory at this time. Moreover, without Zhu, there would be no Mao, which is too unbelievable. Wasn’t it Zhu De who led the troops to Jinggangshan in 1928? The Nanchang Uprising started with more than ten thousand people, but in the end, only one battalion remained. Who relied on whom? If you don’t even know basic historical facts, don’t talk nonsense here.
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I found this on Wikipedia, attributed to the Central Committee of the Communist Party of China’s Literature Research Office. Zhu De Biography, Revised Edition. Beijing: Central Literature Publishing House. 2006. . Included in Qi Benyu’s memoirs, where he also mentioned that the criticism of Zhu De at that time was limited in scope, and later Mao’s intention was to preserve Zhu De.
Additionally, if evidence is to be presented, I hope both parties can provide evidence. I also cannot find historical sources to support the author’s arguments.
First, Wikipedia is not a completely reliable source of information; like Baidu Baike, it can be edited by anyone at will. Someone previously fabricated a section of Russian history and placed it on Wikipedia, which went unnoticed for a long time. Secondly, if the material you provided truly exists, it dates back to 2006 and was published after the Chinese reform and restoration. It is highly likely that it was fabricated by the Chinese reformers to whitewash the capitalists.
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Qi Benyu was himself an object of official denunciation during the Cultural Revolution, and his memoirs are not credible.
I admit that my materials may not be accurate, but in a debate, both sides should provide evidence.
The article is signed by “Mao Zedong Thought Red Guard History Squad” and “Beijing Commune Mao Zedong Thought Red Guard Group”
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Qiqin Yuwen’s stance in the early stages of the Cultural Revolution, and in his memoirs, he mentioned that he was imprisoned because of a misunderstanding related to offending Jiang Qing, but after the Cultural Revolution, he still was not rehabilitated.
The Central Cultural Revolution designated criticism of the Wang, Guan, and Qi groups. If you want to put it that way, there’s nothing more to say. You can choose not to believe the Central Committee of the Communist Party of China led by Chairman Mao, or you might prefer to believe the memoirs of the revisionist Zhu De from 2006 and the confessed traitors who were publicly criticized.
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Don’t worry first, I just want to understand clearly, for example, why after Zhu De was singled out, there was no further criticism of him, and after the ten major meetings, he entered the Central Politburo.
No one is rushing you, I’m just discussing the facts. You say your materials have sources, but mine do too. You also can’t prove that your sources are credible, but I can prove that your materials are not trustworthy. This is just a normal debate, there’s no issue of urgency. To be detailed, Zhu De, as mentioned in the text, was from a landlord family, and had mingled with warlords during the Republic of China period, making him a typical military boss and bandit. Later, this person continued to be opportunistic, not genuinely discussing political lines, but only seeking to seize military power. Even after the failure of the Nanchang Uprising, he still engaged in fleeing tactics and even wanted to defect to warlords. Such opportunists are indeed numerous within the Communist Party. In the world, there is no pure thing that is completely pure; facts show that Liu Shaoqi early on defected to the Kuomintang and caused trouble everywhere, sabotaging the Anyuan strike early on, then instructing the 61st person to surrender and defect, and later advocating for surrendering guns to become officials, exploiting merits, etc.; Chen Boda, Lin Biao, also did sabotage during the land revolution war period. Others like He Long, Peng Dehuai, Deng Xiaoping, etc., have been opportunists infiltrating the party and gaining power from early on. Why wasn’t Zhu De directly taken down? It is related to Chairman Mao’s strategy. Dialectics emphasizes focusing on the principal contradiction, so after the Cultural Revolution, Mao Zedong already knew Lin Biao was problematic, but he still first attacked the rightists and then gave Lin Biao a chance to correct himself, so he wouldn’t continue to pretend to be left while actually damaging the revolution. The same applies to Zhu De and others; Mao Zedong believed in giving veteran cadres a chance to reform, supporting the army to support the left, and promoting the great alliance and unity. But Mao only gave him this chance, which shows that at that time, the main enemy was still someone else, not that Zhu De was a good person.
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