I have done it once before, so this time I will talk about my personal experience. Before I was 17 years old, my parents only came back during the New Year or when I went to work in another city during summer vacation. Because when I was 17, I had a mental breakdown, and my mother came back to take care of me. The damn capitalist, my sixth grandfather, under the same workload of online work for my mother, deducted half of her salary. Yes, my sixth grandfather is a capitalist and exploits my parents at the same time. The main domestic violence was from my sister towards me. Before I was 12, my sister, who is nine years older than me, would hit and insult me. She has a worse temper than mine, and my parents hardly hit me. Because my sister treated me badly, I developed male chauvinism, believing that she is a “daughter who married out, water poured out,” and I have prejudices against women. School bullying started even earlier. When I was in preschool at age 6, I was bullied once in preschool and once in lower elementary school. In preschool, a person named Wu and someone called Li** colluded with others to hit me, draw on me, and kick me; in lower grades, three girls used rubber bands to hit me and kicked me with their shoes. The teachers, on one hand, due to “less trouble is better than more” and their background, always tried to smooth things over. These injustices made me yearn for equality and fairness. Around age 13, I learned to masturbate. At first, it was very frequent, two or three times a week, then reduced to once a week or every two weeks. In 2023, I downloaded 禁漫天堂 (Jinman Tiantang). I had thoughts of soliciting prostitution; at 16, one of my wishes was to do so after becoming an adult. Of course, I have never done it because I always felt it was immoral. Since I joined this forum the night before last, I have decided to quit masturbation and have deleted 禁漫天堂. I hardly play mobile games, occasionally play 《碧蓝航线》, 《部落冲突》, and once a week on the computer, I play 《peak》, 《猎人》, 《cs2》, 《英雄联盟》, and 《碧蓝航线》. I personally think the skins in these games are very revealing and linked to bourgeois色情思想 (pornographic ideas). I have never bought any色情 skins. I am not very good at distinguishing normal appreciation of women from色情思想, but I think liking a woman as cute is better than looking at a sexy woman with exposed legs. I really like the lazy, cute 拉菲 (Laffey) in 《碧蓝航线》, and I know that the ship girls there do not engage in production. Today, I went to the countryside again, but it rained heavily, and I couldn’t do any farm work, only weighing kudzu powder and counting eggs. At school, I started opposing the bureaucratism of the class teacher in the second year of middle school, which made my junior high school life quite bad. For example, once I had a conflict with a classmate, but the class teacher, because he was the son of the town committee secretary (deputy level), favored him. I once made a lewd joke to a female classmate, which was the only time, and I regret it very much. I have always believed that I love history, which is the main reason I took the revolutionary path because I was influenced by historical materialism. In middle school, I read 《钢铁是怎样炼成的》 (How the Steel Was Tempered), and when I saw the martyrs of the October Revolution being executed by the White bandits, I read that part to my classmates. Almost everyone, including the Chinese language teacher, laughed, and I said they are martyrs, why are you laughing. The damn class teacher, when workers were working in the rain beside the school, said: “If you don’t work hard, you’ll end up like these water-drenched people.” When a repairman was fixing the air conditioner loudly, my deskmate said that the worker had no manners. Reading lines like “White bones exposed in the wild, a thousand miles without a crow’s cry,” “The rich’s wine and meat stink, but the frozen corpses lie on the road,” “This year’s drought in Jiangnan, people in Quzhou eat people,” I feel sympathy for ancient laborers, and also for Bulgarian or Romanian folk songs: “When war breaks out, politicians send guns, the rich send grain, and the poor send children; after the war, politicians sit firmly on their thrones, the rich harvest more grain, and the poor can only find their children’s graves.” I sympathize with the international working people. I also despise slandering the slave uprising leader Dao Zhi; the 《旧唐书》 (Old Book of Tang) says Huang Chao ate human flesh and killed people indiscriminately. Even more enlightened landlords like Shang Yang, Wang Anshi, and Zhang Juzheng are not well regarded. I hate exploitation, hate oppression. When I learned about Marxism, it was like finding a beam of light in darkness, supporting me to move forward. Even though the so-called Chinese Communist Party members are full of bureaucratism and formalism, which disappointed and made me doubt the CCP, I have never completely given up. Now, compared to before, I am more坚定 (firm) in communism. “Communism in China will inevitably achieve glorious victory.” “Let the reactionaries inside and outside tremble before us.” “We have already started this cause. As for which country’s proletariat will carry this cause to the end and when, that’s not important. What matters is that the ice has broken, the route has been opened, and the road has been pointed out.”
This is too patriarchal, what male chauvinist logic is this, disguising the oppression of women as if you are the victim? Isn’t this turning black into white, just like during World War I when every imperialist country claimed they were fighting unjust wars to “defend the homeland”? Your male chauvinism isn’t about oppressing women, treating women as sexual tools and household slaves? What does that have to do with your sister oppressing you? It’s completely turning black into white.
Lafey isn’t a child image, damn it. To shamelessly call pedophilia “thinking women are cute” is unbearable
Your pornographic thoughts are so serious that you’re even crazy enough to want to solicit prostitution. How can you still justify your purpose of playing “Azur Lane,” a pornographic game? That’s outrageous, and you haven’t explained what exactly is immoral about it. Marxism only recognizes one morality, which is unconditional support for all oppressed people, including oppressed women.
I speak only honest words; if I were not honest, I wouldn’t say so much.
Before I came into contact with Marxism and communism, my thoughts were indeed backward, but that doesn’t represent now. Materialist dialectics tell us that all things are developing.
Furthermore, “Without others’ suffering, one should not advise others to be kind,” my sister beat me until I had bruises and scars, forcing me to think about suicide. When you told me that gender equality was nonsense, what could I do? When my mother was absent from my childhood, I couldn’t do anything. I was bullied at school and lost hope in life. At that time, my grandmother, who took care of me, told me to endure, “Endure a step, and the sky will be broad.” In elementary school, I was bullied by three girls, and naturally, I developed a sense of machismo, which has a basis. Of course, I now deny this kind of thinking.
“Graceful lady, gentleman’s ideal match,” appreciation for women has existed since primitive society. People in primitive society would seek out robust women with large breasts for mating to produce offspring. Private property society needs no mention. I can now show off my skin in the game, and there is no way I would have a pornographic skin because I haven’t bought any. If I were lustful, wouldn’t I buy to satisfy my desires?
I started thinking about prostitutes around the age of 15. I concluded that prostitutes should not sell their bodies as commodities, just like selling people as slaves. Why do I have thoughts of visiting prostitutes? Because one of my friends is a playboy. Although we hardly contact now, he has been a client of prostitutes and even boasted about it. I have petty bourgeois desires, so I also wanted to visit prostitutes, but I have never actually done it. I simply think it’s immoral—“How can a revolutionary be a lecher at the same time?” It is clearly stated in “How the Steel Was Tempered,” so I have been conflicted about this for years.
Therefore, I cannot accept your criticism of me.
What is King of Marks’s definition of “pornographic”?
King of Symbols,
Your reply is no longer “self-analysis,” but systematically whitewashing your male chauvinist ideas.
I won’t beat around the bush with you.
1. You are using “victim narrative” as a shield
You repeatedly emphasize:
- Your sister hit you
- School bullying
- Mother’s absence
- Suicidal thoughts
Then conclude:
So I naturally develop male chauvinism.
This logic is fundamentally untenable in class analysis.
What society do you live in?
Patriarchal society.
In a patriarchal family, who is the heir?
The male.
Who is expected to “get married”?
The female.
Your phrase “the daughter who marries out, water poured out” is not a victim’s words, but a standard patriarchal inheritance consciousness.
Your sister is financially dependent, and you do not rely on her.
Her status in the family is inherently weak.
Yet you can openly say “she oppresses me,” and from this rationalize your male chauvinism.
What is this?
This is exaggerating individual family conflicts into gender oppression.
You say “blue and purple patches,” but have you analyzed:
- Why is she irritable?
- Is she also oppressed in the family?
- Will she be forced to bear the pressures of marriage and reproduction in the future?
No.
You only talk about “me.”
This is a typical petty bourgeois egocentrism.
2. The phrase “without experiencing others’ suffering” is your way of leaving an escape route
You say:
Without experiencing others’ suffering, don’t advise kindness.
This phrase is reactionary in a revolutionary context.
Because, according to this logic:
- People exploited by capitalists can go rob the weaker?
- People beaten by their fathers can oppress their brothers?
- People humiliated by teachers can humiliate classmates?
Revolution is not emotional compensation.
Revolution is breaking the chain of oppression.
You have suffered, but that does not give you the right to create new oppression.
3. You start using “biological instincts” to give male chauvinism a green light
You say primitive societies preferred mating with women with large breasts.
I tell you, this is not Marxism; it’s vulgar evolutionism.
Human society is not determined by breast size.
What you are discussing now is not reproductive science, but:
- Commodification of female images
- Infantilization aesthetic
- Pornographic capitalism manipulating desire
And yet you deliberately shift to “primitive society.”
This is a bait-and-switch.
4. You treat “not buying skins” as proof of innocence, which is playing word games
You now say:
I didn’t buy porn skins.
The issue is not about the amount spent.
The problem is:
- Are you immersed in sexual gazing?
- Do you treat female images as objects to satisfy desires?
Free porn is still porn.
Spiritual consumption is not innocent.
5. Your opposition to prostitution is because of “revolutionary image,” not women’s liberation
You say:
How can a revolutionary be a pervert?
You care about the “revolutionary image,”
not about “the plight of prostitutes as oppressed people.”
This shows you still stand in a male subject position.
The true stance should be:
Prostitution itself is an exploitation of oppressed women’s bodies.
Not “whether I appear degenerate.”
6. The most serious problem: you have not truly denied male chauvinism
You say you “now deny that kind of thinking.”
But 90% of your entire paragraph is explaining:
- Why it was reasonable at the time
- Why it had a basis
- Why it was a natural reaction
This is not denial; it’s defense.
True denial would be:
No matter what I have suffered, oppressing women is wrong.
Have you achieved this?
No.
7. Your current true state
You are not a person with a firm revolutionary stance.
You are:
- Having anti-oppression feelings
- Possessing male chauvinist desires
- Residual pornography
- Self-defense mechanisms
And now you start to say “cannot accept” criticism.
This is very dangerous.
Because it means you are beginning to see criticism as an attack.
8. I will speak plainly
If you continue to use “my sister hit me” to find the root of male chauvinism,
continue to use “primitive instincts” to justify sexual gazing,
continue to use “I didn’t spend money” to prove your innocence,
then you are not transforming; you are upgrading your defense system.
Revolution is not a place for emotional comfort.
Revolution requires you first to eliminate the oppressive ideas within yourself.
You must either:
- Completely deny the logic of male chauvinism,
or:
- Stop using “I love history” or “I read martyrs” to boost your self-image.
The problem now is very simple:
Are you going to stand with oppressed women,
or continue to uphold your male-centered ego?
There is no middle ground.
First of all, this statement has no scientific basis. Engels also explained in “The Origin of the Family, Private Property and the State” that there was no concept of private property in primitive society, and it was not about choosing mates based on personal aesthetics or to serve the needs of raising the next generation. According to your logic, primitive society would not have practiced marriage systems such as consanguineous marriage, kinship marriage, or exogamous marriage.
It’s not like you said, that “appreciation of women has existed since primitive society.” Primitive society did not have private property systems or private property concepts. Moreover, the so-called “appreciation” you mention is tied to certain classes. Since society developed into a private property society, all behaviors and ideas have been stamped with class marks. The phrase “graceful and virtuous lady, a gentleman’s ideal wife” reflects the aesthetic standards of slave owners. The term “gentleman” itself refers to slave owners, and “small person” refers to slaves. The word “appreciation” seems to detach from class, as if it were merely a pursuit of beauty or admiration, without purpose or class consciousness. If you talk about appreciation, then before that there must be a set of aesthetic standards to judge what is beautiful and what is ugly. And whose class do these standards belong to? When slave owners talk about a graceful and virtuous lady, they mean a woman with a delicate figure, someone they can manipulate. Capitalist society (including today’s bourgeoisie) promotes the idea that white, slender, and young women are beautiful. This aesthetic standard is nothing but a way to rationalize oppression and promote servitude philosophy to serve oppression. White skin indicates not engaging in productive labor and avoiding sun exposure; a slender body makes control easier. Moreover, appreciation itself is not an abstract word; it serves oppression. Many rapists claim that after sexual assault, they were just appreciating the other person, thinking they looked beautiful, and thus committed the assault and oppression. They blame the victim, claiming such behavior has existed since ancient times and is justified. This is just making excuses for oppression. Whether one admits that gender oppression exists in today’s capitalist society or supports women’s liberation is a litmus test for distinguishing true Marxists from others.
May I ask: when did pursuing pornography become a “natural” or “common” trait of humans? Do you have a patriarchal mindset, and does that relate to whether you buy porn skins? According to your words, is the appreciation of women based on objectifying and oppressing women, turning women into only seeking to please men, with white, slim, and controllable appearances? What kind of appreciation is this? This is pornographic thinking that treats women as sexual tools and decorative vases. Even if you don’t buy any porn skins, this set of reactionary bourgeois aesthetic standards—like the “two-dimensional white, slim”—still reflects your pornographic ideas, and it has nothing to do with whether you buy porn skins. You say you now deny this kind of thinking, but what do you rely on to deny it? Before Fenghuo said,
May I ask, which of these have you accomplished now? I don’t know if you’ve studied women’s liberation theory, but probably not in depth, because studying women’s liberation theory makes it impossible to simply think that prostitution is “immoral.” I also don’t know if you’ve had in-depth exchanges with oppressed women, but judging by your hostility towards your sister and your statement that you saw your grandmother and grandmother-in-law as illiterate and didn’t know what to do, I tend to think you haven’t. As for breaking away from bourgeois aesthetic standards, your statement above is even more straightforward: “I just like certain female characters.” You haven’t done any of these three things, so what do you use to criticize your pornographic ideas?
Your statement reveals that your knowledge of history is zero, because for a long period, primitive society was matrilineal clans, and the patrilineal clans were only a very brief transitional stage towards private property, lasting less than one-tenth of the matrilineal period. Furthermore, in primitive society, men and women were equal; if we must say, the matrilineal society was centered around women, and there was no such thing as men choosing women with large breasts for mating. You’re being too barbaric—are you treating primitive society as some kind of pornographic society? Looking at primitive society through the lens of a brothel.
You are so full of nonsense. Everything from “Without others’ suffering, one should not advise others to be kind” is brought up. Your sister, your mother oppressing you, no one denies that, but how does this relate to your later obsession with oppressing women, indulging in pornography, and serious male chauvinist ideas? Is it because they are oppressed by their XX chromosomes? Many members on the forum have also interacted with female managers, capitalists, and other bourgeois and their lackeys; does this mean they develop male chauvinist ideas? Your argument is like saying that raping a female capitalist is a class struggle. Just like your attitude towards the revolution—seems very active, but in reality, you are just dead-set on protecting your male chauvinist interests. No wonder many women call leftist men “left men,” because there are too many people like you.
“The gentle and virtuous lady, the gentleman’s good match,” admiration for women has existed since primitive society. People in primitive society would seek out women with robust figures and large breasts for mating to produce offspring. Private ownership society needs no elaboration.
From this paragraph, it’s clear that your knowledge of history is zero. “The gentle and virtuous lady, the gentleman’s good match” is from the slave society’s Book of Songs. The vulgar and obscene words you mentioned later also show that you are viewing primitive marriage relations through yellow-tinted glasses. The “standards” you talk about completely treat women as private property. Such extreme selfish and reactionary ideas cannot arise in a primitive society practicing public ownership.
Interestingly, when I was 16 years old, I thought it was necessary to take a code name for future organizational purposes. At that time, I chose “Xinyou,” which is the Year of Xinyou in 1921, and in 1981, a pseudo-“Resolution” was issued, which also happened to be the Year of Xinyou. This served as a reminder to myself never to forget communism, never to forget revisionism.
From Marks_King’s remarks, it can be seen that you have little understanding of gender oppression and have not considered women’s social status, otherwise you wouldn’t say things like:
Moreover, you hold reactionary male chauvinist ideas that oppress women. What does this have to do with your sister? Your claims of domestic violence are completely questionable. Your sister is not economically independent, and you do not rely on her either. Where could the violence come from? I think it’s entirely exaggerated. How exactly does your sister live? What is her status in the family? How did your parents treat her from a young age? What is her future fate? You haven’t mentioned any of this at all. Instead, you openly admit your vicious thoughts, saying “the daughter who married out, the water spilled out,” which means she is not part of the family, and you are the heir? Your reactionary thoughts have reached this extent, and you even invert black and white, claiming that your discrimination against women and your involvement in pornography are because women have bullied you—this is utterly shameless.
You speak lightly of your extreme reactionary pornographic ideas, saying that “soliciting prostitutes” has become “a wish,” and describing lust for young girls as “appreciation for women,” liking “lazy, cute LaFei.” My judgment is that you have no correct attitude towards your own pornographic thoughts. Your ideas are too male chauvinist.
When I was young, is it still necessary to mention the corrected thoughts from before I encountered communism? My backward thoughts no longer exist.
If the broom doesn’t reach, dust won’t run away by itself. Old ideas cannot be automatically replaced without long-term, thorough struggle guided by Marxism. Everyone’s old thoughts also change after coming into contact with Marxism and engaging in ideological struggle; everyone understands what ideological transformation entails. Outdated ideas do not disappear without struggle, which is consistent with the objective laws of development.
King of Symbols:
There are two intertwined things in your self-narrative:
One is genuine anti-oppression sentiment;
The other is extremely reactionary male chauvinism and pornographic ideas.
If the latter is not thoroughly exposed, the former will be thoroughly corrupted.
I’ll get straight to the core issue.
1. You are using “victim narrative” to justify male chauvinist ideas
You say:
Because my sister treated me badly, I developed male chauvinism.
This is not analysis; it’s shifting blame.
Male chauvinism is not “a psychological reaction naturally arising after being bullied by a woman.”
Male chauvinism is an entitlement consciousness bestowed upon men by old society:
- Treating women as accessories;
- Treating women as “outsiders” in the inheritance order;
- Treating women as sexual resources.
Your phrase “Daughters who marry out, water poured out” already clearly states the problem.
This is not victimhood; it’s actively positioning oneself as the oppressor.
Whether your sister has issues to discuss is another matter,
but your choice to respond with male chauvinism is your responsibility.
Revolutionaries cannot justify their oppression of others by saying “I have been hurt too.”
2. Your attitude towards pornographic ideas is flippant
“Prostitution is a desire” “Not doing it because it’s immoral”—
This is not stance; it’s self-comfort.
What is prostitution?
It is the commodification and utilization of oppressed women’s bodies.
It turns human dignity into a transaction.
If you stand from the proletariat perspective, you should understand this from the oppressed women’s point of view,
not from “whether I have done it” or “whether I feel okay about it.”
And let’s talk about “Azur Lane.”
You admit it has pornographic tendencies, yet you also say “I just think it’s cute.”
This is exactly the most cunning aspect of bourgeois porn culture—
using “cuteness,” “aesthetics,” and “2D” to package possessiveness.
You say you can’t distinguish between “appreciation” and “pornography.”
Here’s the standard for distinction:
- Do you treat women as independent social subjects?
- Do you respect her from her labor, personality, and stance?
- Or do you only focus on her image, body, cuteness, and sex appeal?
If the answer is the latter, then that is pornographic thinking.
3. What is your main contradiction now?
It’s not about past bullying.
It’s not about what software you downloaded.
It’s—
Whether you are willing to completely deny male chauvinist ideas, rather than just finding reasons for them.
Your current attitude still remains at:
- I acknowledge there is a problem;
- But it’s because of past experiences;
- I have already deleted the software.
This is far from enough.
Revolution is not just deleting an app.
Revolution is transforming your stance.
4. The truly commendable part of you
I won’t deny that your sympathy for the working people is genuine.
Your anger at injustice is real.
Your ability to stand up for martyrs when reading “How Steel Was Tempered” is not pretentious.
But you must understand:
Sympathizing with the working class but standing on the oppressor’s side on gender issues is not revolution.
Proletarian revolution is overall liberation,
including oppressed women.
If you waver on women’s issues,
then your so-called “anti-oppression” is only half-measure.
5. Three directions for your transformation
-
Stop using the past to justify male chauvinism
Acknowledge: male chauvinist ideas are wrong, oppressive, and must be eliminated.
No more explanations of “why this happens,” but ask “how do I change.” -
Re-understand gender issues from a female perspective
Learn about the real situation of women oppressed by the sex industry.
Understand how “commodification” destroys personality.
Transform “I think it’s cute” into “She is a person with social status, labor, and dignity.” -
Prove change through action, not just words
Abstain from porn consumption.
Take responsibility actively within organizations.
Clearly take a stand on women’s issues instead of remaining ambiguous.
Finally, I have a harsh word:
Revolution is not about venting your anger at injustice,
but about first eliminating the oppressive ideas within yourself.
If you are not willing to thoroughly deny male chauvinism,
you are just trying to switch to a different position to continue oppressing others.
But if you truly want to change,
willing to let yourself suffer once in ideological struggle,
then you can fully grow.
Choose to grow.
The logic that Marko Wang uses to beautify his male chauvinist ideas is completely the same as the methods used by the bourgeoisie to create three-dimensional characters. He claims that someone who fundamentally has a problematic class stance and holds oppressive thoughts is justified because he once had painful experiences in the past, so his bad behavior is reasonable, and oppressing others is justified. This is entirely reactionary logic. Marko Wang also says that his oppressive thoughts towards women are because he was bullied by his sister and female classmates before, which is completely the same as the logic of the Japanese devils. Such things are not even close to school bullying, and there is no necessary reason to explain them. In short, it’s just small fights among classmates. Using this as an excuse to say that he objectifies women, treats women as sexual tools, and then uses crazy pornographic ideas to insult women is completely unreasonable.
Do you also think it’s just small squabbles among classmates? But I have never fought back, never resisted them. Domestic violence and school bullying are all true, and there is no possibility of exaggeration. Moreover, I have long since come to terms with my actions. Every Women’s Day, I post a status. In the past, there was a progressive female compatriot whose birthday it was, and in my birthday wishes to her, I hoped that women could be liberated. I saw that my grandmother and grandmother are women, but they are both illiterate and have never had the chance to read. What else can I do?
Even if all of these are true, how can they serve as an excuse for you to justify gender oppression? If someone is bullying you at school, is it because they are women? In a capitalist society, women are oppressed everywhere; if you are bullied, then more women are being bullied. Your so-called support for women’s liberation is completely empty talk, because you are still finding excuses for your own oppressive thoughts towards women, for your own pornographic ideas. Isn’t it ridiculous to take memories from over ten years ago and use them as evidence of “misogyny”? You objectify women with pornographic eyes, insulting and scrutinizing women as sexual objects, what does that have to do with being bullied by someone in elementary school?!
The oppressed, after being oppressed, do not rationalize their oppressors’ behavior and then become the new oppressors. True oppressed people will only resist that oppression and sympathize with other oppressed people. Using your past experience of being bullied in school as an excuse to justify oppressing women shows that you are not standing from the perspective of the oppressed at all! That is completely a robber’s logic!
I was also bullied in school before because I couldn’t fight other students, because I was an outsider and excluded, unable to speak the local language. The main reason was that my worldview was different from theirs. But from elementary school to middle school to high school, I understood very clearly that there are many kind-hearted girls among female classmates, and it was through interacting with them that I was treated equally. Of course, there are also girls who hang out with male hooligans, but ultimately, the patriarchal oppression structure determines that women are oppressed everywhere, especially women of the proletariat, daughters of workers and peasants.
What are you doing by propagating your gender oppression ideas based on some nonsense from over ten years ago? Don’t you feel ashamed? What are you calling yourself—still a Marxist? Still claiming to be Maoist? Don’t you find that disgusting?
The idea of oppressing others cannot originate from the experience of being oppressed. I was bullied in middle school, but it was not because I frequently watched various pornographic materials during that time to oppress women’s thoughts. On the contrary, as someone supported by my family and with plenty of free time, I was idle and involved in pornography. Your nonsense about domestic violence and school bullying justifying your pornographic and oppressing thoughts about women is nothing but using the Marxist red flag to continue indulging under capitalism, while opposing women’s liberation and social liberation, trying to justify your own oppressive mindset.
I can’t stand it anymore, what is the Sign King talking about? If there are really female classmates bullying you, it can only be because they have exploitative class思想, and they are children from exploitative class families. You should oppose the exploitative class, not oppose women. Your words are self-contradictory; if the logic that being bullied by female classmates leads you to hate all women makes sense, then when you receive help from women, why don’t you love all women because of that?